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Nazism is a far-right ideology.

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"Nazi Party" is the English-language common name for the National Socialist German Workers Party.

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Q: Why is the Nazi Party labeled a far-right party? They called themselves socialists, so should they be left-wing?

A: Almost all historical and present-day academic literature places the Nazi Party on the far-right of the traditional left-right spectrum, which in turn is the most common short-form classification used in political science. The Nazis themselves attacked both left-wing and traditional right-wing politicians and movements in Germany as being traitors to Germany. While the Nazi regime's economic policies are very different from those of present-day right-wing parties that adhere to classical liberal or neoliberal positions (which advocate, e.g., a highly deregulated, privatized economic environment), Nazi economic policy was typical of the early to mid-twentieth century far-right, and indeed most political currents of the time, in that it embraced interventionist economics. The Nazi Party absorbed the far-right reactionary monarchist and nationalist German National People's Party into its membership in 1933. The Nazi Party also held good relations with openly right-wing political movements in Europe, such as the Spanish Confederation of the Autonomous Right, whose leader Gil-Robles was a guest at the 1933 Nazi Party Nuremberg rally and sought to model his movement upon the Nazi Party.

Q: If socialism is mainly left-wing and they called themselves socialists in their name, why is this being ignored?

A: Historically, several right-wing figures used the term "socialism" to mean something very different from what would be understood by traditional left-wing socialism, referring simply to the broader concept of collectivism and anti-individualism. The prominent French reactionary monarchist Charles Maurras famously said "a socialism liberated from the democratic and cosmopolitan element fits nationalism well as a well-made glove fits a beautiful hand". Maurras's views influenced fascism. Oswald Spengler's ideal of "Prussian Socialism" directly influenced Nazism, and Spengler promoted it as a member of the far-right Conservative Revolutionary movement.

Q: Were the Nazis actually a capitalist movement?

A: The answer depends on the context and definition of capitalism. Ideologically, Hitler in private was just as opposed to the ethos of capitalism as he was in public as a politician; he regarded the capitalist ethos as being self-centred individualism that was incompatible with nationalism. Furthermore, in both public and private Hitler regarded capitalism as being created by the Jews for their own interests. The Nazis in public and in private held contempt for bourgeois culture in liberal capitalist societies - as they associated such bourgeois culture with a cosmopolitan, liberal, and decadent lifestyle that was incompatible with the Nazis' ideal of a nationalist martial ethic of disciplined soldiers who were collectively committed to the Fatherland above any individual interest. So, ideologically, Nazism held strong antipathy to capitalism. However, at the same time, Hitler and the Nazis endorsed private property and private enterprise and did not challenge the market economy, which was important to their accrual of power because it avoided antagonizing industrialists and aristocrats. The Nazis themselves claimed that "true socialism" did not involve the Marxian opposition to private property. But if capitalism is defined in a minimum way as involving the support of the existence of private property, private enterprise, and a market economy, then from that minimum definition, the Nazis could be considered as endorsing a capitalist economy.

Q: The proper English name for the Nazi Party is the National Socialist German Workers Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP). "Nazi" is an abbreviated term, so why does the article not use the proper name?

A: Because English Wikipedia uses the common name for things, and the common name for the NSDAP in English is the "Nazi Party".

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Two conflicting FAQ pages

This talk page has an embedded FAQ section transcluded from Talk:Nazi Party/FAQ, and there is also Talk:Nazism/FAQ, transcluded into its parent page and into some talkpage-notice templates. These should be merged, concisely, so there's just one maintenance spot addressing the same perennial questions. I would suggest that the proper location for this would be Talk:Nazi Party/FAQ, and just transclude from there as needed (and redirect Talk:Nazism/FAQ to it). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 13:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Some of the content in the Nazism version is markedly better. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 14:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Kierzek (talk) 14:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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How bout you just drop the "far right" portion? Because that's horse shit and most historians teach that Nazism is simply center authoritarian. Sincerely, a man who turned the opportunity for phD in history because that's a waste of time. 2600:381:CFA0:1BF6:E371:B8D7:6B0F:112E (talk) 03:38, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 04:01, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. If "most historians teach that Nazism is simply center authoritarian" then the available reliable sources would already indicate that very clearly, but they do not. And anyone who didn't consider studying history "a waste of time" would already understand that, probably. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 09:51, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nazism was far-right. Their ideologies, beliefs, and practices are all significantly more in line with right-wing politics than left-wing or centrist ones. drdr150 Yell at me Spy on me 20:40, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Disingenuous use of disingenuous?

Hi, the lead has the NSDAP 'using disingenuous socialist rhetoric'. I don't know what 'disingenuous socialist rhetoric', or even 'disingenuous rhetoric' might be. I could get behind 'disingenuously using socialist rhetoric'; OTOH, the cited ref (Enc.Brit.) limits itself to 'using socialist rhetoric', no genie involved. Perhaps the unembellished original is actually the best. T 2A02:FE1:E180:3900:A4DF:3665:7102:5C3C (talk) 20:55, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is a summary of sources not a copy of them, that the Nazi's were disingenuous in there use of socialist rhetoric is a good summary of the Britannica's article. I mean if you want to be extremely pedantic it could be rewritten to "disingenuously using socialist rhetoric", but I don't think there's any real issue with the current wording. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 22:18, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's a very minor thing but I think that rewording is a small improvement. I'll do it now. DanielRigal (talk) 00:45, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not opposed. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 12:07, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Calling the National Socialist Party "far-right" only shows that Wikipedia is Leftist.

Read the FAQ. — Czello ^(music) 12:48, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fascism is neither left or right but Socialism is always left. Citing others doing the same does not change the facts. Wikipedia must have a proper neutral achidemic tone; It should not be a place for editors personal point of view. If this is a controversy, then report on it rather than taking a biased position. The truth of this question can be found in the NAZI government's social policies not in what Leftists say. Calling authoritarian government right wing perverts all historic ideas of authority vs. personal freedom. Tyrerj (talk) 04:07, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"authoritarian government" can be right-wing or left-wing. Both are extreme and evil. Read the article and the scholarly sources that explain why Fascism, and its far-right variant known as Nazism, are right-wing, not left-wing. Study European history and the underground sabotage groups that fought the Nazis. The Communists and Socialists (both left-wing) were the most active and hated the Nazis. The Socialists also hated the Communists for being too extreme.

Also, a minor detail

, but are you blind? When you opened the editing window to this page, there was a large pink notice:

Nazism is a far-right ideology.

The consensus of political scientists, historians, and other reliable sources is that Nazism is a far-right ideology and not a left-wing or far-left one. This has been discussed numerous times. Please see this FAQ and read the talk page archives.

Please do not request that "far-right" be changed to "left-wing" or "far-left"; your request will be denied, and you may be blocked from editing if you persist in doing so.

You are not going to change those facts without some massive help from myriad very reliable sources. Your griping here will just get you labeled as an ignorant nuisance who should be blocked. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 05:29, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"neutral achidemic tone" What does "achidemic" mean? Dimadick (talk) 12:09, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"personal freedom" Personal freedom is associated with liberalism, liberalism's obsession with liberty, and the group of ideologies representing Centrism. Right-wing politics are associated with reactionary thought and a support for aristocracy. Dimadick (talk) 12:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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So it's named the National Socialist German Workers Party, which all suggest far left, but it's far right? They believed in socialized medical care, they believed in controlling the markets, they believed in big government. But yes sooo far right. Lolz 2601:840:467E:6A90:E961:FDBE:92D6:F6D4 (talk) 15:56, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]